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		<title>By: Who Put the Inch in Peninsula? &#171; Literal-Minded</title>
		<link>http://camba.ucsd.edu/blog/phonoloblog/2006/03/24/defibulator/#comment-3598</link>
		<dc:creator>Who Put the Inch in Peninsula? &#171; Literal-Minded</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 05:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] now more inclined to go with a morphological analysis, like the ones proposed for nucular and defibulator. Just as nuclear gets reshaped to end with what looks like a suffix in words like molecular and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] now more inclined to go with a morphological analysis, like the ones proposed for nucular and defibulator. Just as nuclear gets reshaped to end with what looks like a suffix in words like molecular and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: david hill</title>
		<link>http://camba.ucsd.edu/blog/phonoloblog/2006/03/24/defibulator/#comment-2214</link>
		<dc:creator>david hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 19:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;But is there no possibility of meaning for phono analogies?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Lieberry: Place where all the books are willingly untrue.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Defibulator: Scientology slang for the requisite machine.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nucular: Directed adjective for target of threatened or promised nuclear attack who is also lacking in truthfulness: 'I'm going to nuke you, l(i)ar!,' particularly in speakers of a West Texas dialect.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Massatwosetts: Archaic, name for former English colony and later U.S. state priot to 1828; ie, when Maine achieved statehood. Also, Cape Cod slang for result of mix-up of multiple sets of golf equipment.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But is there no possibility of meaning for phono analogies?</p>
<p>Lieberry: Place where all the books are willingly untrue.</p>
<p>Defibulator: Scientology slang for the requisite machine.</p>
<p>Nucular: Directed adjective for target of threatened or promised nuclear attack who is also lacking in truthfulness: &#8216;I&#8217;m going to nuke you, l(i)ar!,&#8217; particularly in speakers of a West Texas dialect.</p>
<p>Massatwosetts: Archaic, name for former English colony and later U.S. state priot to 1828; ie, when Maine achieved statehood. Also, Cape Cod slang for result of mix-up of multiple sets of golf equipment.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://camba.ucsd.edu/blog/phonoloblog/2006/03/24/defibulator/#comment-2213</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 20:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting point re: &lt;i&gt;va{s}cillate&lt;/i&gt;, Trochee.  I think the word that primed me for this was actually &lt;i&gt;oscillate&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting point re: <i>va{s}cillate</i>, Trochee.  I think the word that primed me for this was actually <i>oscillate</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: Trochee</title>
		<link>http://camba.ucsd.edu/blog/phonoloblog/2006/03/24/defibulator/#comment-2212</link>
		<dc:creator>Trochee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;can't resist the pedantry:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I wonder if the spelling "vascillate" (in place of "vacillate") is another of these errors-by-analogy, e.g. analogy to "fascicle" or "conscience" where latinate words use "sc" to represent /s/ or esh.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For myself, I thought (until I looked it up just now) that the word was spelled "vaccilate", on analogy with "vaccine", perhaps.  I had a pronunciation tendency to put a velar stop in too, which I will now attempt to quell.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Just a meta-example of another of these cases where it's hard to resist spelling/pronouncing like some other word we know better.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can&#8217;t resist the pedantry:</p>
<p>I wonder if the spelling &#8220;vascillate&#8221; (in place of &#8220;vacillate&#8221;) is another of these errors-by-analogy, e.g. analogy to &#8220;fascicle&#8221; or &#8220;conscience&#8221; where latinate words use &#8220;sc&#8221; to represent /s/ or esh.  </p>
<p>For myself, I thought (until I looked it up just now) that the word was spelled &#8220;vaccilate&#8221;, on analogy with &#8220;vaccine&#8221;, perhaps.  I had a pronunciation tendency to put a velar stop in too, which I will now attempt to quell.</p>
<p>Just a meta-example of another of these cases where it&#8217;s hard to resist spelling/pronouncing like some other word we know better.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Zimmer</title>
		<link>http://camba.ucsd.edu/blog/phonoloblog/2006/03/24/defibulator/#comment-2211</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Zimmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This sort of anticipatory dissimilation often happens with the /pr/ cluster as well, as in "imp(r)opriety" and "p(r)erogative." &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But "Febuary" is most similar case to "defibulator", since both simplify /br/ as /bj/.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sort of anticipatory dissimilation often happens with the /pr/ cluster as well, as in &#8220;imp(r)opriety&#8221; and &#8220;p(r)erogative.&#8221; </p>
<p>But &#8220;Febuary&#8221; is most similar case to &#8220;defibulator&#8221;, since both simplify /br/ as /bj/.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://camba.ucsd.edu/blog/phonoloblog/2006/03/24/defibulator/#comment-2210</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 03:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good examples - I wonder if there's others out there.  And yeah, I think liquid dissimilation might be involved too.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To that end I got a small number of hits for "defillibrator", in the area of 300.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good examples - I wonder if there&#8217;s others out there.  And yeah, I think liquid dissimilation might be involved too.</p>
<p>To that end I got a small number of hits for &#8220;defillibrator&#8221;, in the area of 300.</p>
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		<title>By: Travis Bradley</title>
		<link>http://camba.ucsd.edu/blog/phonoloblog/2006/03/24/defibulator/#comment-2209</link>
		<dc:creator>Travis Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 22:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Two other examples come to mind that show an avoidance of [br] clusters: Febuary (&#60; February) and libary (&#60; library). February gets 2,570,000,000 ghits vs. Febuary's 4,800,000. Library gets 3,160,000,000 vs. libary's 3,450,000. In these cases, though, /br/ &#62; /b/ can be attributed to dissimilation with the /r/ of the suffix, and, in the case of Febuary, further analogy with January. (See the entry on http://dictionary.com.) Could defibulator result from liquid dissimilation as well?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two other examples come to mind that show an avoidance of [br] clusters: Febuary (&lt; February) and libary (&lt; library). February gets 2,570,000,000 ghits vs. Febuary&#8217;s 4,800,000. Library gets 3,160,000,000 vs. libary&#8217;s 3,450,000. In these cases, though, /br/ &gt; /b/ can be attributed to dissimilation with the /r/ of the suffix, and, in the case of Febuary, further analogy with January. (See the entry on <a href="http://dictionary.com" rel="nofollow">http://dictionary.com</a>.) Could defibulator result from liquid dissimilation as well?</p>
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